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It's no secret that ARCH ENEMY love doing what they do, and they do it with pride. Metal is in their blood, flowing like a river. Since 2001's magnificent masterwork, "Wages Of Sin", the band have strived to diversify themselves even further, delving into new, sometimes experimental musical landscapes. Now they've reached another milestone in their evolution as one of the world's premier Metal bands with the release of their latest studio album, "Rise Of The Tyrant". Gripping, spellbinding, emotional, thought-invoking, crushing, "Rise Of The Tyrant" sees the resurgence of the old ARCH ENEMY mixed in with the sounds you'd expect on a great modern Metal album. Creating music for themselves first and foremost, and for the hordes of adoring fans across the globe, ARCH ENEMY hold the key to Metal's future. With enough brainstorming and determination, they'll have no problem seeing a lengthy career in the business. But as guitarist/songwriter Michael Amott tells METALEATER, he never thought the band would be going this long.
What do you like so much about the smaller Metal shops?
"Well, 'cause it's all Metal (laughs). It's all dedicated to the genre that I love. It's kind of getting rare, you know. I just like there being really accessible. That's just really good to know that there's that kind of hope for this."
Are there many of those in Sweden?
"Not really, no. There's a few, but not many. I grew up going to record stores, especially the independent Metal stores. It's something that I always thought was totally awesome. I remember when I was a kid in the '80s and you go in and they have like all the KREATOR and SODOM stuff on the walls... METALLICA picture discs and stuff like that. It was just like... (laughs)... you know - I'm from that generation so I grew up on that stuff so it's like, that really still gets me going, you know. I get excited. There's a different generation of Metal here (North America) now. So much stuff is called 'Metal' now. That term is getting thrown around so much, you know what I mean? I think there is some confusion in North America because Metal was gone for 10 years throughout the '90s pretty much, so there's some confusion as to what Metal really is... and in Europe it never went away. So it's very clear in people's minds what it is... and in Japan it's the same story. But here in America, I don't know... for some reason it went away and now everything is Metal again."
I agree with you. As a whole, the definition is still not known. People consider certain band's Metal...
"But it will be gone soon again and then everybody will be ashamed to call it Heavy Metal, but I'll still be in it probably (laughs)."
So let's talk about your new album "Rise Of The Tyrant". What inspired the title?
"We wrote a song that was musically probably the most extreme song that we'd written out of all the songs, and Angela (Gossow - vocals) brought in the lyrics and I just liked it. - I liked the title that she had for that. So that's actually stronger than any album title we've discussed. Maybe we should make this the title track 'cause it's kind of a special song the way that it's... the most extreme song. So it would be cool to have that as the title track. We were looking at all the other lyrics and there seemed to be sort of a theme going through some of them about different kinds of tyranny I guess... or just abuse of power and these kind of themes. 'Rise Of The Tyrant' - it sounds very Metal (laughs). It's not like something JUDAS PRIEST would put out (laughs)."
Where did you grab the first intro in the song?
"That's from a movie. That's actually Malcolm McDowell, the actor. He portrays Caligola in the early 80s - a controversial film for various reasons. It's about... he was kind of a megalomaniac and a tyrant, you know. But that was 2,000 years ago - a historical figure - but I thought it was cool to have something like that to sort of establish that feeling even more... the way he was completely out of his mind; power crazy. I think we still see that today in certain areas; not always in politics, of course... in the media moguls... like the big media powers that be... people who think they are above the law and that have a big influence on everybody's opinion... to control what people hear and see."
So that's basically the theme of the song?
"Yeah. It runs through a few of the songs."
What inspired the album cover? Did you have the vision or did you work with the artist?
"Yeah, I worked closely with this guy. I wanted the all-seeing eye in there and wanted something more than that because other bands have used that as well. There's all kinds of details in there. We wanted something very powerful and kind of terrifying and something that reflected the album title. Something that's sort of rising up - like the city in flames in the background."
It's very intricate.
"At the same time it is intricate, but we also wanted to have something that was kind of graphically very simple, like there's only three colours basically - black white and red, and some grey. It's very kind of monochrome. Simple, not like a million colors. The last album, 'Doomsday Machine', had almost more photo-realistic type colours, but we wanted something a little bit different with this one."
What made you decide to bring back Fredrik (Nordström) back instead of using Andy Sneap again?
"We wanted to record in Sweden. We wanted to do something a little bit different compared to what we had done on the previous two records. Going back to him seemed like it was doing something different but still kind of familiar. It was a way of doing something not exactly couple of records. It turned out pretty good."
With Chris (Amott - guitar) back in the band now, it seems like you have this resurgence.
"Yeah, in a way, yeah. That was kind of one part of the puzzle that was missing - the last tour was Chris not being there. Also you know... I just really made up my mind already back in 2005 when we started touring for 'Doomsday Machine'... I knew that the next album we would sort of go back to the more faster songs, more intricate arrangements, more guitar solos, more melody for the guitars, and also have a more gothic type of imagery on the next album. That's something that I knew, that I wanted, and I was kind of telling everybody that this is what we should do; try and convince everybody that that's what we should do. Basically this is what we ended up making with 'Rise Of The Tyrant'. Like with 'Wages Of Sin', I was kind of looking at that album... it was an album that was successful. I mean every album has been more and more successful but I mean successful from an artistic point of view, I feel that 'Wages Of Sin' was up there as one of the high points of our career. I looked at that album and I said 'What was it that made this album so cool and why do we still like to play those songs live?' I wasn't trying to make a copy of it but we were trying to make something that had a similar atmosphere."
It does have that, and it has that "old" ARCH ENEMY feel to it. Would you agree with that?
"Yeah, I think so. It's also got stuff related to what we've been doing in the past four years - the last two records 'Anthems Of Rebellion' and 'Doomsday Machine'. The stuff from those as well... we've learned a lot; we've developed as a band. This album is a lot more intricate maybe and more demanding than 'Wages Of Sin', but I know it has some of those key elements... some of the drama in the arrangements, like very emotional guitar work, stuff like that."
There is a lot of emotion in the guitar solos, I noticed that. It's almost spellbinding just listening to it.
"Well that's nice (laughs). That's what we're in to. I'm just a sucker for that. That's what I like. When a guitar solo comes in I want it to be taking the song to the next... to somewhere illustrating what is going on in the song lyrically or something. You just want to sort of take it to the next level, not just something that you throw in there to showoff a little technique that you picked up when you read Guitar World or something, you know. It's not about that for us. It's more of just an emotional thing, yeah... trying to have quality guitar parts as well. We kind of dig pretty deep when we look for influences with this kind of stuff. So it's not like... we don’t look to bands that are our peers. We're not influenced by that really. It's all the stuff we're into. That was always my thing, you know... try and bring quality melodic guitar parts into the Death/Thrash type environment. I've always loved those styles of music and try to blend it too. It's kind of a challenge, you know, because they're kind of opposites in a way. You take something big, ugly, heavy and distorted and then you've got something beautiful and sort of emotional - then try and blend the two. But the challenge is what makes it exciting. It creates tension in the music I think. I try to dig fairly deep into the history of Hard Rock and Metal and go see something on some obscure thing from the '70s and '80s and say 'That would be cool to have something like that.' If you look at what's going on right now then and you think 'Yeah, it would be cool to have a chuggy type breakdown part here ...' that would make it so boring. Then you've got another band on the bill playing these chuggy sort of breakdowns and telling the crowd to behave in a certain specific way for different parts - aerobics Metal or whatever they call it. It's just boring to me. I would just rather do something that's a little bit different. It's not us. We're not as accessible live as some other bands are, but we're very European in that sense. We're a European Metal band. I wouldn't say we're a Death Metal band either; I think we're like an extreme Metal band; extreme in the sense that we have all these different elements and it all comes together and it's not your every day stuff, I guess."
No, it's very unique.
"Well, we like to think so. We're trying (laughs)."
Your music amalgamates all kinds of subgenres of Metal.
"That's right, yeah."
Like you said, I wouldn't class you as a Death Metal band. Death Metal is CANNIBAL CORPSE. But a lot of people call you "Swedish melodic Death Metal" like DARK TRANQUILLITY. ARCH ENEMY is unique.
"I haven't really heard of that many people that have copied us... yet, whereas I have heard a lot bands copy IN FLAMES, and I've heard a lot of people copy AT THE GATES and stuff like that. I haven't heard that many people copy us; maybe it's because we're not that popular (laughs). But I think it's something to do with how we arrange our music. It's kind of hard to figure out what we're doing. It's not like we have a couple of pretty easy-to-learn ingredients, and then you just adapt that and you just sound like ARCH ENEMY. It's a bit more... it's in how everybody plays. It's in the details, you know."
Would you say that you have achieved everything you wanted to achieve with "Rise Of The Tyrant"?
"Musically. Yeah, you could always be better, you know. I mean, it's always a struggle. I'm never happy (laughs). We're trying to raise the bar every time but it gets harder and harder. The better you get, the better the albums get and the harder it is to top that next album. You just have to kind of do something a little bit different to keep it exciting. If you keep using the same thing it gets fairly boring pretty quickly. What I like about this album actually is that it's kind of exciting. We wanted to make something very sort of intricate, action-packed."
What's your favourite track?
"My favourite tracks are definitely not the singles. They never are. (Amott thinks about it for a few seconds) I like a lot of them, you know. 'In This Shallow Grave' - I like that one. I like 'The Day You Died' and 'The Great Darkness'. These are usually songs that come at the back of the album. I don't like the ones that are that immediate, I guess. I mean we have singles like 'Revolution Begins' and another one called 'I Will Live Again'. Both of those songs we did videos. But you know, I've always been an album person; I always go deeper into records and I find songs that are... I think even with our own stuff I'm a little bit like that... I always like the songs that never become videos or that are a bit longer maybe. I like the song 'The Day You Died' because it's kind of different for us. It's the first time we've attempted doing... there's a few things in the arrangements in that song that we've never done before."
I really like "Night Falls Fast". There's something about it that grips you right away.
"Yeah, yeah. I'd like to start doing that one live actually because I think that could turn out to be a good live song. Just in a live set. You never know which ones are gonna work live either. Right now we're just playing two new songs live. We're doing 'Blood On Your Hands' - opening up with that, and we're also doing 'Revolution Begins'. We've just been doing it co-headlining with MACHINE HEAD throughout North America, and the album wasn't out for the first three weeks we were in America, so we'd like to expand a bit more."
What are your comments on the recent show cancellations by Disney?
"I don't know. It's kind of surprising, you know. We'd played at these venues before on Disney property at the House Of Blueses, so it's kind of surprising that they changed their policy and it's sort of unprofessional how they did it at the very last minute."
Rob Flynn (MACHINE HEAD vocalist) has been really vocal about his discontent about that and I don't blame the guy really. It seems like censorship is still running wild in America.
"Yeah. It's their freedom, they’re gonna have to defend it if they want it."
On a personal level, how does it make you feel to have Christopher back in the band, not only as a brother but as a fellow guitar player?
"It feels totally natural to have Chris back in the band. We don't really sense that he's been away, because I guess it's just a natural thing. He was in the band when I started the band; I asked him to join the band on the first record and he's been there for pretty much the whole career of the band, you know. He missed two years of touring. I think he regained his focus a little bit and I think he probably needed a break. He missed a lot of stuff, but I guess he needed to make some other experiences in life and he seems like he's done that now. He seems more focused, more content."
It's like have the full ARCH ENEMY assault back. Fredrick (Åkesson) is a great guitar player.
"Amazing."
He's now with OPETH.
"That's right."
Did you part amicably? Are you still friends?
"Yeah absolutely, yeah. He's a total pro, you know. We don't have a bad word to say about him. He did really good with us, worked really hard, great guitar player. We got along on a personal level really well. It's good."
So I'd like to get your comments on the CARCASS reunion at Wacken.
"I guess I looked at my schedule and I wasn't busy enough (laughs). It's been a long trip to get to this point where this will be a... to get everybody on the same page... everybody's schedules. We talked about it for a few years. Everybody else is reforming (laughs). So we're going to get together to do a few shows. Why not? It's fun!"
Had you been in contact with Jeff (Walker) a lot?
"Yeah."
What brought it all together?
"We got together in London (England) a couple of months ago - the first time that all four original members were together in one room since 1993 when I quit the band. We did interviews for some DVD or some re-release or something like that. So that's what that was about. That was the spark, I guess - the four of us sitting together reminiscing and then we sort of said 'Hey, well, maybe we should try to do this again.' I mean, we talked about it before and we actually rehearsed a little bit before last year, but then it all fell apart again. You know, 'cause I'm so busy with ARCH ENEMY and the other guys are busy with their stuff. It never seemed like there would be a right time to do it. But this time we're going to do a few festivals in Europe next summer."
Are you excited about it?
"Yeah, I am excited about it 'cause it's been a long time since I played those songs. I'm going to have to learn them first, then I'll be excited after that (laughs). Or re-learn them; I know some of them. We're going to have to rehearse a bit, I guess."
What songs are you most looking forward to playing live?
"All of it really. We're gonna probably do a pretty balanced set list sort of playing stuff from the whole career of the band. I think it will be good. Obviously maybe relying heavily on the two albums I played on ('Necrotism' and 'Heartwork'). I believe they were the two most successful ones, but they were great before I joined as well, so hopefully stuff from the 'Symphonies Of Sickness' album and probably something on the album after I quit as well - 'Swansong'. We'll see. I'm looking forward to it."
Have you talked about doing a new album together?
"No. Nothing like that has been discussed; no new album, nothing like that no. I think the idea is just like we're gonna do this, see what it feels like, you know. But you know ARCH ENEMY is my main thing and can't really see that changing. It's like an additional thing; something else to do as well. It will be kind of fun because I'm very heavily involved in ARCH ENEMY in every aspect of the band, but obviously with CARCASS I would just kind of revert to my old world... what I had as just a guitar player, you know. It will maybe kind of be quite relaxing to just do something like that for fun."
Would you like to do another album with CARCASS again?
"No, I don't think so. I think I view this just as live thing really, yeah."
How long would you like to be doing ARCH EMEMY?
"I don't know, as long as it's fun. Things are getting better all the time for us. I never thought we'd be going this long. It's been like ten years now. You never know. I've never planned anything really; I just let things happen. Just keep on trying to make music that we find cool and then we just put it out there. Every time it's been getting a little bit bigger. You just keep doing it."
What do you have planned for 2008?
"I know we're going to do a Japanese headlining tour. That's all I know right now. I don't really know exactly what's coming together. There's going to be some more stuff in Europe and something more in the U.S. as well."
Do you plan to tour as heavily for this album as you have for let's say "Doomsday Machine"?
"I don't know. It depends... it depends what the opportunities are and how things roll. Like we didn’t think we were gonna continue doing a fourth U.S. tour last year when we got offered the MEGADETH thing with Gigantour. It was a great offer and we said 'Yeah, let's do it.' But you know, when you get great opportunities offered to you, sometimes they're too good to turn down. So, I don't know... probably not as long. I think we toured too long on the last album, for two years. I think that was a bit long." [FIN]
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